Joshu went to a hermit's cottage and asked, 'Is the master in? Is the master in?' The hermit raised his fist. Joshu said, 'The water is too shallow to anchor here,' and left. He went to another hermit and asked the same question. This hermit also raised his fist. Joshu said, 'Free to give, free to take, free to kill, free to save,' and made a deep bow.

Mumonkan, Case 11