Tokusan went to the dining room holding his bowl. Seppo said, 'The bell has not yet rung, where are you going with your bowl?' Tokusan returned to his room. Seppo told Ganto about this. Ganto said, 'Great as he is, Tokusan has not yet grasped the last word of Zen.' When Tokusan heard this, he sent for Ganto and asked, 'Do you not approve of me?' Ganto whispered his criticism. Tokusan said nothing. The next day Tokusan gave an entirely different kind of lecture. Ganto laughed and said, 'The old man has finally understood the last word of Zen!'

— Mumonkan, Case 13

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